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Some of Plymouth’s most loved places have a dark secret- they’ve been revealed to be some of the ‘dogging’ hots pots in the city.

No, this isn’t a comprehensive list of the best places to walk your four-legged friends (unless that’s what you like to call it).

This is some of the popular places where people partake in the alfresco pastime of ‘dogging.’

The list of popular places, which has been leaked online, suggests that strangers meet up for sex in front of spectators at some of the city’s biggest tourist traps.

They include waterfront car parks, public parks and even beaches.

Our city has an ever-growing list of ‘dogging’ hot spots, but what is it and where does it happen?

According to the Oxford Dictionary, dogging is “the practice of watching or engaging in exhibitionist sexual activity in a public place.”

And Urban Dictionary says that the word derives from the phrase ‘walking the dog’ – because its when walking your dog that you could stumble upon a passionate couple in a car park.

So here are 8 of the most popular Plymouth ‘dogging’ sites, according to different ‘dogging’ websites.

Jennycliff Car Park

Jennycliff is a popular with families and dog walkers – both kinds of dog walkers… (Image: Lucy Blake)

By day, Jennycliff has stunning views and is a real family-friendly spot to enjoy in all kinds of weather.

But from 11pm onwards you might want to avoid this spot if you’re not ready for an eye-full, because this is a dogging hot spot.

One avid ‘dogger’ said: “Jennycliff car park can be found on the outskirts of Plymouth at a place called Hoe, which is just past Plymstock.

“There is a cafe at Jennycliff which has a large car-park where dogging takes place any time from 11pm.”

Devils Point Car Park

Devil’s Point could be a euphemism. (Image: Max Channon)

This is another place people go to enjoy their evenings.

One commented: “Devils Point car-park in Plymouth usually have a few cars around with interested parties!”

You don’t even have to pay and display.

Central Park

Another dogging hot spot (Image: Katie Timms/Plymouth Live)

The largest park in the city hides some secrets in its crevices and is another hot spot for certain activities – maybe it should be renamed Central Bark.

One anonymous person said: “Seen plenty of dogging at place called Central Park in Plymouth by big house there’s some benches and bushes were lots of action happens.”

Victoria Park, Millbridge

An empty Victoria Park
Don’t go to Victoria Park when the lights go dark (Image: William Telford)

This old bowls green also doubles as a ‘dogging’ hotspot after 11.30pm every night, according to an anonymous participant.

They said: “The old bowls green right at the back of park near the big steps every night from 11.30pm.”

Leigham Manor Drive

If you go down in the woods today you’re sure in for a big surprise at Leigham Manor Drive.

“During the dark hours it is very secluded and quiet,” says one anonymous dogger about this small car park in the woods.

“It doesn’t involve Dartmoor and there are no boy racers,” they add.

Residents at the plush housing estate the road from Marsh Mills leads to are unlikely to approve.

Clearbrook

A moorland car park on the road between the A386 and Clearbrook is also said to be a site people gather.

An anonymous poster claims it is popular in the summer – but warns the practice is a “risky business”.

This risky business has a two hour window for voyeuristic adventures to seize, and the poster adds: “If you want to go dogging on Sundays, then visit the Clearbook car park where you can meet with local doggers from 8pm until 10pm.”

Marsh Mills

Traffic chaos in the Marsh Mills Retail Park
Marsh Mills Retail Park (Image: Sam Burt)

Also listed is the very public former Currys car park at Marsh Mills – which also home to McDonald’s.

Customers at the chain might not be lovin’ it after dark.

An anonymous writer claims it is particularly “popular with estate cars”.

Tamar Bridge

The Tamar Bridge at sunset – you might not want to visit any later, though (Image: Connor Owen Skidmore)

Or rather, under the bridge on the Plymouth side specifically.

It’s been described as an “excellent place,”, but residents in the houses overlooking the water at Saltash Passage would probably disagree.

What does the law say?

Many people may be reading this and wondering ‘is this even legal?’

Surprisingly, it is.

Devon and Cornwall Police said previously that the force was trying to tackle the anti-social behaviour, but its powers to stop dogging are limited.

“Having sex in a public place is not actually an offence,” a force spokesman said.

“The offence is one of public indecency, or public nuisance – so it’s difficult to enforce any law.

“We cannot arrest anyone simply for having sex in a public place.

“We are aware of the issue, and we’ve asked officers to disrupt the problem.

“We say to people to tell the police about it and we’ll see how we can deal with it, but ultimately it’s not just down to the police, it’s also one for the local authority.”

The website ‘Dogging Direct‘ also outlines to its users why it isn’t an offence: “Section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act (SOA) states that exposure of the genitals with the intent to cause alarm or distress to the person exposed is against the law.

“If an individual “intentionally exposes his genitals and he intends that someone will see them AND be caused alarm or distress” he is committing an offence. Plain and simple.

“It can clearly be argued that people out dogging and exposing themselves in the act of dogging are not out to cause alarm or distress, and are thus NOT committing an offence. If they expose themselves to the general public, well that’s a different story.”

It continues: “Section 67 of the SOA states that voyeurism is a sexual offence under four separate conditions.

    A person commits an offence if :

  • For the purpose of obtaining sexual gratification, he observes another person doing a private act, and he knows that the other person does not consent to being observed for his sexual gratification.
  • He operates equipment with the intention of enabling another person to observe, for the purpose of obtaining sexual gratification, a third party doing a private act, and he knows that the third party does not consent to his operating equipment with that intention.
  • He records another person doing a private act, he does so with the intention that he or a third person will, for the purpose of obtaining sexual gratification, look at an image of that person doing the act, and he knows that person does not consent to his recording the act with that intention.
  • He installs equipment, or constructs or adapts a structure or part of a structure, with the intention of enabling himself or another person to commit an offence under subsection (1).

“In essence this law is stating that it is a crime to watch any person engaging in a sexual act for the purpose of obtaining your own sexual gratification, knowing that the other person does not consent to such observation for your sexual gratification.

“If the person has consented to you watching and is fully aware that you are watching for your sexual gratification it is not a crime.

“Section 68 of the SOA interprets voyeurism as follows: If a person is doing a private act if the person is in a place (which includes a tent, vehicle or vessel or other temporary or movable structure) which, in the circumstances, would reasonably be expected to provide privacy, and the person’s genitals, buttocks or breasts are exposed or covered only with underwear, the person is using a lavatory, or the person is doing a sexual act that is not of a kind ordinarily done in public.”

So there you go, bet you never thought you’d have this much knowledge on dogging.

Plymouth Live